Moving to Italy.

Moving to Italy.
Hey. At me like all is solved, but what a screw of doubts is eating. I have an Italian man. We go on a visit. But it’s boring. Every three months, wander from Siberia to Rome and back. Moreover, I am doing a visa in another city, for a thousand kilometers. We decided to live together. But without registering a marriage. He is a separatist, even more so. I am after the divorce. I decided to stay in Rome when I received another tourist visa. To live illegally. Until the first sanatorium. I hope 3-4 years, no more. I have a child – a schoolboy. But I went to school in Rome, promised, there will be no problems. I do not need to work, I will be a housewife. Tell me, the risk is justified, is not it a great chance of deportation? Travel we will not do in Italy, maximum – by car around or by train to a nearby city. There are practically no opportunities to live in Russia.
Who lived illegally, share your experience, please.
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Horror! Why You Need It? housewife, illegally, without any rights. but they thought about the child? and razve illegal immigrants to school? no love is worth such wandering.
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And how long have you been driving? Desperado you girl !!
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There is no apartment, I roam about in Russia. there is no work. And so there were problems with her, and with these trips every three months, and she does not exist now. Come back here every time. – I do not see any sense at all. Only depression and earning a headache.
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In the school children of illegal immigrants are taken and even your home address is not indicated. There is such a law in Italy. And the teachers confirmed this to me. They said, bring at any time of year the child. And I have wanderings in Russia. For several years the relatives of the door will not open.
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almost two years. These are the “guests”. On airplanes, trains and the visa center already eyes do not look.
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Olga, I do not want to moralize. you have some kind of wrong Italian.
if he loves you, why does not he support you while you are in Russia? naturally, no employer will keep such an employee.
And if he throws you in Italy and finds the same fool, forgive?
when there is a candy-bouquet period, and there is a period of grinding to each other, the man begins to show himself in all its glory. If so, I can bark – I’m a wife. but can you bark at you? and do you want your child to be teased at school? I did not hear about such a law.
do not ruin yourself and your child.
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will you shy away from every carabineer? and go to the doctor? documents because they require. and in general, this list can be continued indefinitely.
a freak of some kind, forgive me, he knows about your lack of money and doesomed to do this.
the times of illegal immigrants and Decembrists passed. loves – let him marry.
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in Russia I live on his money. But my conscience does not allow me to do this already, I’m not a child, I’m 30 years old. I’m not worried about the child. I spoke with the teachers officially. I’m tired of Russia. Every meaningless return is stress. I’ll return to Russia. It seems I do not lose anything ..
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my husband and I periodically argue because of his tricks in relation to our children .. you know how men do not like disorder, children’s noise and childish spontaneity? and your child is a non-native.
I can prove it, tell it, put it in its place. why do you need bondage.
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Ol, my opinion is no.
here and legally something is not all smooth, and hard. but illegally. Your life – of course.
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about marriage .. Having read about the complexities of the European divorce, I’m afraid now simply, although we planned in 2 years, when he will not be “separatist”. But then I changed my mind, and my divorce made me feel bad. refused him, decided to go on the path of a fictitious labor contract and wait for the sanatorium.
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marriage is the easiest way.
but why then live together if you immediately think about divorce?
even separatist, it means that there will be some, and maybe a very significant part of the income to the wife to unfasten. and you are on bird rights. Ol, do you want it? Do you love him so much?
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about the children we have the opposite problem. His children live with us 12 days a month. Very noisy and wayward children. I constantly visit him. they say, take care of their upbringing, here is not the jungle .. My against the background of them, as a cadet of the Suvorov school-with iron discipline and high moral principles Alimony pays. and children and wife. But this is his money and I do not think about it.
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and that’s what you want to go to as an illegal housewife? in 30 years? want to bury yourself.
if the children are wayward, then they are not brought up. Ol, do not you like yourself so much?
but God forbid your Italian what will happen to work, and what? Are you going to sit on the priest exactly?
In life now and so there is no stability, and it’s not known what to sign. you know, I do not have to persuade. and myself, too. just weigh everything, think, read the same forum. You are 30 years old. but not 60.
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Is it really that bad at home? I have worked for 10 years, it has always been my dream, the opportunity not to work. And so it came true, so to speak. Even if the next sanatorium will be years through 7, this is not a problem, time flies quickly. Perhaps I have too much optimism, life will show. In Russia, I do not see any prospects. Two educations, there is no work. And not her happiness for a woman. I had a career two years ago, I just gave it up, I’m so sick of it. In any case, thanks for participating.
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no one here will support illegal arrivals, there are many reasons, we already wrote, and in the subject you girls were told.
Okay do not want to marry – your right, I, too, after the divorce did not want this. But it’s easier and easier, and in general.
If a man has money – let him make you a fictitious work contract, there is a way. Screw in the search. It is not necessary to drive yourself into the framework, the more illegal. All good luck!
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correctly say the contract – your only chance to be a man, and not the pursued animal driven by the law!
and it’s clear that children from school and country under 18 do not have the right to expel .. but you – yes!
Think 153 times !!
it is not so unrealistic to arrange a contract .. but it will be a medical insurance, and residence permit, and if you want and can, then and others work ..
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it’s hard to imagine, I think work in Russia can always be found, in Italy it’s more difficult, as can be seen from many comments on the forum, and the Italians themselves confirm this.
All the same, weigh all the pros and cons, and then you’ll break the firewood, and then the road may not be back. In any case, good luck!
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I already have a contract.
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for 600 euros, a permanent job, of course. But I do not need this happiness .. I worked at one time for 11 hours a day, paid 800, but they constantly reproached me and waited for extra-hour slavery for it. In Rome, I have the opportunity not to work, and finally to do home and children. My son of eight years, after life and in Italy, said “Mom, finally I had a real childhood.” You are at home and are in no hurry. ” But which employer needs an employee working only two and a half or three months?
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if you already have a contract. then why do you write about illegal residence?
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Fine! What risk? Need to try. And then make him (or another) marry and then everything will be legal!
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contract without quota.
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olgaRe, that for a contract WITHOUT a quota. as a super-specialist. another is not given.
but considering that you yourself described that you do not really love (love) work, I doubt your qualifications and compliance with the requests prescribed by law.
agree with dorsay – is quite thick.
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Leave! You will give birth to a child – you will get citizenship! What are your years!


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