Forum Vorota.de.

Forum Vorota.de.
Anordnung des Bundesministeriums fur die Aufnahme judischer Zuwanderer:
a) der Nachweis der judischer Nationalitat oder die Abstammung von mindestens einem judischen Elternteil durch staatliche vor 1990 ausgestellte Personenurkunden.
b) die Erwartung einer eigenstandigen sicherung des Lebensunterhalts (positive Integrationsprognose)
c) Grundkenntnisse der deutschen sprache.
(d) kein Bekenntniss zu einer anderen als judischen Religionsgemeinschaft.
e) der Nachweis zur Moglichkeit der aufnahma in eine judische Gemeinde im Bundesgebiet.
Frau Such and such a hat den Nachweis der Zugehorigkeit zum berechtigten Personenkreis gem. Ziff. I Nr.1 Nr.1 and Nr.2 lit a bis d der o.g. Anordnung erbracht.
Nucht erbracht werden kann die aufnahmevoraussetzung des Nachweises einer Aufnahmemoglichkeit in einer judischen Gemeinde im Bundesgebiet gem. Ziff.I Nr.2 lit.e der o.g. Anordnung.
And then about the reasons for rejecting the Council of Jews of Germany:
Die UPJ wird mit einbezogen, wenn – wie vorliegend – keine durchgangige Abstammung nach der Halacha gegeben ist. Die Ablehnung ist in Kenntnis aller durch die Antragsstellerin vorgelegten Personentandsurkunden erfolgt und tragt dem Tatbestand Rechnung, dass eine patrilineare Abstammung uber den Gro vater vorliegt.
Die Zentralwohlfahrtsstelle der Juden in Deutschland e.V. (ZWST) erklart in ihrer gutachterlichen Stellungnahme vom 28.02.2013, dass eine Aufnahmemoglichkeit in eine judische Gemeinde im Bundesgebiet nicht besteht.
Der aufnahmeantrag war somit abzulehnen.
To say that her daughter is upset is not to say anything. Can I do something? What should be done in Wiederschpruch? Questions classic: what to do and where to start? Very useful constructive. Thanks for good advice. Yes, I forgot to write that she ticked the atheist in the column.
Fridericus.
And who, in the end, decides whether to allow entry: Bamf or the Council of Jews ?.
By the way, before we drove the whole family and together with my halakhic father, and, all as one, put-atheist.
BABYKIN.
Butler.
1. Proof of the Jewish nationality of the applicant or one of the parents by the original document issued before 1989 (passport, military card, membership card, etc.)
2. The possibility of admission to one of the Jewish communities ZWST or UPJ.
Yefim Ogurtsov.
Yefim Ogurtsov.
German-free and without accent, English-very well, two red diplomas, to sit social and not going to. And at the expense of the Jews, I wrote already that in 2001 we all wrote an atheist and rolled. And not only here.
Yes, and familiarity with the rules of the reception, quite literate people, but could not lie. Everyone. Excess, probably, in Germany such halakhic?
So whose is the Jewish mother there back and forth?
Do not try to hurt me, Mr. Babykin, I know the level of communication on the forum of individual individuals, the immunity has developed.
Fridericus.
Therefore, filling out the questionnaires, I carefully checked and weighed all the pros and cons.
Yefim Ogurtsov.
So in fact, the year 2012 2001.
The rules of admission have changed. Previously, there was no need for community consent.
Therefore, filling out the questionnaires, I carefully checked and weighed all the pros and cons. AND? What wrote something in the long run?
Yefim Ogurtsov.
Of course, of course. But to force the religious community to accept an atheist into its members – even in the most secular country it is impossible.
Fridericus.
Fridericus.
just need to carefully comply with the formalities and neatly paperwork to fill.
BABYKIN.
Yefim Ogurtsov.
(31-07-2013, 11:07) memw Posted by: [->] The protest will still write, we do not lose anything. Chances are scanty, BAMF works, observing the letter and spirit of the adopted rules and regulations. The cases of court review of the BAMF decision are single and occurred only with the iron substantiation.
– The daughter will lose a couple of years of time in the course of preparation, waiting and consideration of the case.
– The services of a lawyer will cost several thousand. Regardless of the result.
Yefim Ogurtsov.
Do not write nonsense.
According to the new rules, Jews are accepted for a quarter if they were born after 1990.
Here everything is painted in the most detailed way, and even in Russian.
a) der Nachweis der judischer Nationalitat oder die Abstammung von mindestens einem judischen Elternteil durch staatliche vor 1990 ausgestellte Personenurkunden.
Fridericus.
Yefim Ogurtsov.
Do you have dyslexia?
judischer Nationalitat sein bzw. von mindestens einem judischen Elternteil, bei nach 1990 geboren Personen auch von mindestens einem judischen Gro elternteil abstammen und sich zu keiner anderen Religion bekennen.
The girl was born in 1990. This is before or after 1990, what do you think?
Yefim Ogurtsov.
Yefim Ogurtsov.
Yefim Ogurtsov.
At you in failure the address where to send Widerspruch is specified. I guess it’s Amtsgericht Ansbach. Is this correct?
One question cleared up for me. Since the daughter was born after 1990, the newly introduced addition is in force: evidence of Jewish origin is for such cases a document that confirms the nationality of the grandfather and grandmother. Thanks to Yefim Ogurtsov. Hence, the reason for the refusal is ONLY in the negative conclusion of ZWST.
If you can not, but really want – then you can! You just need to know what door to enter and what to have in your purse.
If your friends have an approach to the chairman of the Jewish community, and he, in turn, has good relations with the city’s leadership, your question is completely resolved, provided that the granddaughter at this moment will be in Germany (at least in German courses, for example ).
At you in failure the address where to send Widerspruch is specified. I guess it’s Amtsgericht Ansbach. Is this correct?


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